(RADIATOR) Idea for an app...

Tue Jan 7 09:07:31 CST 2003

Hi Mike.

I did some research and came up with this link... This is exactly what I
was talking about.

http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/howto/HOWTO/Authentication-Gateway-HOWTO/

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%-----Original Message-----
%From: Mike McCauley [mailto:mikem at open.com.au] 
%Sent: Martes, 07 de Enero de 2003 03:41 a.m.
%To: Anton Krall; 'Hugh Irvine'
%Cc: radiator at open.com.au
%Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) Idea for an app...
%
%
%Hello Anton,
%
%
%On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:33, Anton Krall wrote:
%> Well. For the auth and page redirect part, Im very interested.
%>
%> I have search for some software for this and havent been 
%able to find 
%> something I like so far.
%>
%> We need some software for hotspots (wire or wireless) that 
%when a user 
%> plugs in, dhcp will assign an IP and then when the user 
%opens up a ANY 
%> web page, he will be asked for a username or code, and upon 
%successful 
%> auth, he will be granted access to the Internet for X amount of 
%> minutes.. After that.. Internet is closed again and he has to insert 
%> another username, code or buy more minutes..
%>
%> Sounds like the idea Mike is working on?
%
%Its not precisely the same thing, but yours is an interesting idea.
%
%I guess it would act like an http proxy, and would authenticate each 
%connection from a client, and measure the total traffic 
%delivered to that 
%client. I know squid can be made to do radius auth, but not 
%accounting, and 
%certainly not volume limits based on radius reply attribute. 
%So perhaps this 
%would be a front-end to a http proxy?
%
%Its hard to see how this could be made to work for other than 
%HTTP, though. 
%Would your custoemrs need to access other than http (port 
%80?). Port 443 
%https comes to mind?
%
%Cheers.
%
%>
%>
%> __________________________________________________________________
%> Anton Krall
%> CEO
%> Intruder Consulting
%>
%> Email: akrall at intruder.com.mx
%> Tel: (55)5233-9281
%> Celular: (044)55-5105-5160
%> ICQ#: 4979450
%> MSN: akrall at hotmail.com
%> AIM: antonkrall
%> Web: www.intruder.com.mx
%>
%> Outside Mexico
%> Tel: (+52)5233-9281
%> Celular: (+52)5105-5160
%>
%>
%> %-----Original Message-----
%> %From: Hugh Irvine [mailto:hugh at open.com.au]
%> %Sent: Lunes, 06 de Enero de 2003 10:02 p.m.
%> %To: Anton Krall; mikem at open.com.au
%> %Cc: radiator at open.com.au
%> %Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) Idea for an app...
%> %
%> %
%> %
%> %Hello Anton -
%> %
%> %1. Our Radmin product will already do most of what you describe. %
%> %	www.open.com.au/radmin
%> %
%> %2. You would need the usual twisted-pair ethernet hub or switch and
%> %some Cat-5 cabling, together with one or more 802.11x 
%wireless access
%> %points. You would also need some sort of server machine 
%(probably a PC
%> %running some version of Linux/xxxBSD) and some sort of connection to
%> %the internet. Finally you would need some magic software to redirect
%> %the http requests to the login page when a user starts up a session.
%> %
%> %For this last point, Mike has recently been working on some
%> %redirection
%> %software for exactly this purpose.
%> %
%> %I have copied Mike on this mail and he may have some additional
%> %comments.
%> %
%> %regards
%> %
%> %Hugh
%> %
%> %
%> %On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 13:45 Australia/Melbourne, Anton Krall
%> %wrote:
%> %
%> %> Guys... I have an idea and I need some help figuring out 
%the specs.
%> %>
%> %> 1. A client of mine just called to ask for a quote for a software
%> %> developed inhouse that’s intended for an internet café. 
%The software
%> %> has this specs:
%> %>
%> %> - Install a linux machine with php, mysql, and radiator
%> %> - Make some php pages for an admin system that can create serial
%> %> numbers
%> %> (instead of usernames, the serials are for prepaid 
%cards), passwords
%> %> and
%> %> assign minutes to the cards.
%> %> - Make the php pages that can let the users review how 
%many minutes
%> %> they
%> %> have left on the serial/prepaid card they bought
%> %> - Configure radiator to auth against the mysql db with serials and
%> %> limit
%> %> access to X amount of minutes depending on the prepaid card they
%> %> bought.
%> %>
%> %> How much would somebody charge for coding this kind of app?
%> %I need an
%> %> estimate on how to charge my client for this.
%> %>
%> %> 2. This is a tech question.
%> %>
%> %> What would you need to implement an internet café with
%> %> wireless/ethernet
%> %> adaptors and create a LAN, so that when a user plugs 
%their laptop to
%> %> the
%> %> eth port or turns on their WiFi cards, they are assigned an IP and
%> %> everything else via DHCP and then when they try to use HTTP,
%> %FTP or any
%> %> kind of internet access, they are psented with a popup 
%asking for a
%> %> username and password?
%> %>
%> %> This username and password would interact against a 
%radiator server
%> %> like
%> %> the one mentioned on step 1.
%> %>
%> %> What kind of configuration, hardware is needed for such an
%> %> implementation?
%> %>
%> %> Thx for any ideas you can provide.
%> %>
%> %>
%> %> __________________________________________________________________
%> %> Anton Krall
%> %>
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