[RADIATOR] Multiple authentication methods

SPirrottina at qtc.com.au SPirrottina at qtc.com.au
Thu Jul 16 18:38:26 CDT 2009


Hi

Yes you are right the RSA server does know which auth method is being 
used, however, the way I currently have Radiator configured it does not 
support the different auth methods.


Regards
Steve Pirrottina | Network Administrator
I.T Systems and Support | Queensland Treasury Corporation
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From:
Alexander Hartmaier <alexander.hartmaier at t-systems.at>
To:
"radiator at open.com.au" <radiator at open.com.au>
Date:
17/07/2009 01:52
Subject:
Re: [RADIATOR] Multiple authentication methods
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Is the request to the RSA server different for Token and SMS auth?
I think the RSA Server knowns which auth methods are allowed for the
user and acts accordingly.

Am Donnerstag, den 16.07.2009, 06:44 +0200 schrieb
SPirrottina at qtc.com.au:
> Hi Hugh
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> Basically some users will use hardware tokens, some will use SMS
> authentication, and others may need the option of using one or the
> other (for example, there may not be mobile coverage to receive an
> SMS, so they may use a hardware token)
>
> I've thought of a way I can do this through our remote ssl vpn
> appliance (Juniper) using different realms and sign in pages.  I was
> thinking SMS users would authenticate using Radiator, and hardware
> token users can authenticate directly to RSA AM, without going through
> Radius.
>
> I was wondering what Radiator can do in relation to this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
> Steve Pirrottina | Network Administrator
> I.T Systems and Support | Queensland Treasury Corporation
> p: 07 3842 4677 | f: 07 3842 4910
> e: spirrottina at qtc.com.au | w: www.qtc.com.au
>
>
>
> From:
> Hugh Irvine <hugh at open.com.au>
> To:
> SPirrottina at qtc.com.au
> Cc:
> radiator at open.com.au
> Date:
> 16/07/2009 14:31
> Subject:
> Re: [RADIATOR] Multiple
> authentication methods
> Sent by:
> radiator-bounces at open.com.au
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
> Hello Steve -
>
> There are a number of ways of classifying requests, not just the
> Realm
> suffix on a username string.
>
> You can indeed have multiple AuthBy clauses in a Realm or Handler, or
>
> you can set up different Handlers if there is something in the
> request
> to differentiate the requests.
>
> If you can give me a bit more detail I will try to make some sensible
>
> suggestions.
>
> regards
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
> On 16 Jul 2009, at 12:05, SPirrottina at qtc.com.au wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > We are evaluating RSA AM 7.1 with Radiator and have a query in
> > relation to Radiator and authenticating using different methods.
> >
> > We will have a requirement to have some users authenticating using
> > RSA hardware tokens, and some users via OnDemand SMS
> > authentication.  I noticed in a document published on RSA's website
>
> > that the way to do this with Radiator is to have different
> > authenticating groups and assign different Realms for each category
>
> > of user, and this is based on their username.
> >
> > Can this be done any other way as all our users have the same
> > username naming convention so this wouldn't work for us?  Is it
>  not
> > possible to have two authentication methods in one realm?
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Steve Pirrottina | Network Administrator
> > I.T Systems and Support | Queensland Treasury Corporation
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