(RADIATOR) Re: FW: Radius

[Iain Wade]

I'm with the original group that bought the Radiator License I
believe; the group being Optus Internet Engineering. We bought the
license probably > 5 years ago.

I believe in the past other parts of Optus (Optus Business, etcc)
approached Open System Consultants Pty Ltd and were told to just
re-use the existing license; you guys turned down money?

Radiator is now deployed in a large number of places internally, my
view of the world can see at least 8 or so separate clusters of up to
6 machines each.

I'm not sure how the separation of Pty Ltd's affects this license; for
example I'm employed by Optus Administration Pty Ltd, as I believe
most/all staff (including Alphawest) are, but I think somehow my team
might be operating as a part of Optus Internet Pty Ltd. though we've
now been moved into a "Consumer" CFU (whatever that means).

My opinion, and that of the people around me, is that Optus has gotten
fantastic value out of the software/license and for the price (<$10k?)
it's fully worth supporting a fine Australian company and software
tool by buying another license.

But it's not my budget :-)

We haven't paid for any support for years; does that mean we were not
entitled to recent versions of the software?

--Iain

On 6/20/06, Joanne Davis <joanne at open.com.au> wrote:
> Hello Stephen -
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> This actually falls into a "grey" area.
>
> Are you leasing the Optus servers?  Are Optus paying Alphawest to
> manage the software for them?
>
> Is Alpahwest still listed as a legal company? - ie does it still
> operate a separate set of accounts and separate tax return.   From a
> search on the ASIC web site it does appear to.
>
> The actual ownership of the company is not an issue - the license is
> issued to a specific company for use by that company.  Therefore the
> Optus license can be used by Optus only.
>
> If Alphawest want to use the software and they are a separate legal
> entity then AlphaWest would need to purchase their own license.
>
> Is there someone at Optus who can corroborate your position?
>
> Hope this helps clarify and let me know the information asked above.
>
> Regards
>
> Joanne
>
>
> At 11:27 AM +1000 20/6/06, Stephen Tsagdis \(Alphawest\) wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Please see response to the licensing question.
> >
> >We are not sure about the current license - can you give us some more
> >details.  Optus does have a license for Radiator, however we are not
> >sure if Alphawest would be included in that?  What is the legal
> >entity of Alphawest?
> >
> >       Optus purchased AlphaWest late last year and as such is fully
> >owned by       Optus.
> >
> >Is it a separate legal company from Optus??
> >
> >       No Optus owns AlphaWest
> >
> >Are the servers the software in installed and operating on owned by
> >Optus or AlphaWest?
> >
> >       The servers and OS are owned by Optus and managed by AlphaWest
> >
> >We can then clarify the licensing and give you appropriate pricing.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Joanne Davis [mailto:joanne at open.com.au]
> >Sent: Monday, 19 June 2006 5:40 PM
> >To: Stephen Tsagdis (Alphawest); radiator at open.com.au
> >Subject: Re: Radius
> >
> >Hello Stephen -
> >
> >Thank you for your email.
> >
> >At 4:30 PM +1000 19/6/06, Stephen Tsagdis \(Alphawest\) wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I have a current requirement to provide using Radius/Radiator
> >>authentication to remote access users utilising a shared a Radius
> >>Server the requirements are as follows:
> >>o        Multiple companies using single server/cluster for
> >authentication
> >>o        Provide auto provisioning via portal for MACS
> >>(add/moves/deletions) of users.
> >>o        Each company to only have access to their own user database
> >>so that they can auto provision users.
> >>
> >>I believe that the current Radiator licence is under Optus so I need
> >>to know what are the additional costs involved to provision such
> >>service via Radiator.
> >
> >What you are describing is a multi-entity user management system with
> >external protected access. Radiator itself does not provide such
> >facilities, although it can be configured to access a database
> >managed by such a system.
> >
> >We have a companion product called RAdmin which is a single entity
> >user management system, although with some work it can be used for
> >multiple entities.  http://www.open.com.au/radmin
> >
> >We are not sure about the current license - can you give us some more
> >details.  Optus does have a license for Radiator, however we are not
> >sure if Alphawest would be included in that?  What is the legal
> >entity of Alphawest?   Is it a separate legal company from Optus??
> >Are the servers the software in installed and operating on owned by
> >Optus or AlphaWest?
> >
> >We can then clarify the licensing and give you appropriate pricing.
> >
> >Look forward to your reply.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Joanne
> >
> >>Cheers,
> >>Stephen Tsagdis (CISSP #78545)
> >>Solution Architect - Managed Services
> >>Alphawest
> >>Alphawest Services Pty Ltd
> >>101 Miller St
> >>North Sydney NSW 2060
> >>E-mail stephen.tsagdis at alphawest.com.au
> >>Phone: +61 2 9342 8129
> >>Mobile +61 401 701076
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> >>As a result of the acquisition we have aligned some of our Optus
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> >  >address. Can you please use this email address from now on.
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> >>If you have any questions regarding the change please let me know.
> >>
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> >--
> >
> >Joanne Davis
> >Open System Consultants Pty Ltd
> >Email: joanne at open.com.au
> >Web: www.open.com.au
> >
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> Joanne Davis
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> Email: joanne at open.com.au
> Web: www.open.com.au
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