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You're right - there is no username. Just an SSID and credentials. So why do these services not require trusting a certificate? Are those services less secure? Is the shared password going over in clear text?</div>
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<div><span id="ms-rterangepaste-start"></span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:16.003px">Roberto Ullfig - rullfig@uic.edu</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:13px; line-height:16.003px">
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> radiator <radiator-bounces@lists.open.com.au> on behalf of Heikki Vatiainen <hvn@open.com.au><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> radiator@lists.open.com.au <radiator@lists.open.com.au><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RADIATOR] Certificate Not Trusted - InCommon?</font>
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<div class="PlainText">On 9.9.2021 18.11, Ullfig, Roberto Alfredo wrote:<br>
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> No, I'm referring to WiFi offered at airports, coffee shops, bars, or at <br>
> someone's home etc... You are given a username and password and the <br>
> phone shows the SSID, you just enter the username and password and are <br>
> connected. There is never a window asking you to trust a certificate.<br>
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Could be WPA-Personal, also known as WPA-PSK, where a shared secret (Pre <br>
Shared Key) is needed, or Wi-Fi Protected Setup? But I think these don't <br>
require a username. One option is a built-in client that launches a <br>
customised browser to help with captive portal login.<br>
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The problem with the above is that Wi-Fi client software in your device <br>
does not know how to authenticate the network. The network demands that <br>
credentials are used but the Wi-Fi client software has nothing to demand <br>
from the network.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Heikki<br>
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Heikki Vatiainen<br>
OSC, makers of Radiator<br>
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