(RADIATOR) accounting request Acct-Session-Id lost in conversion from diameter to radius

Blake Ulmer bulmer at TataraSystems.com
Wed Mar 21 10:01:17 CST 2007


Thank you both for your replies.  I was not aware that DIAMETER had
multiple session id attributes, but the explanation you provided makes
perfect sense.

The only problem is that, with no code changes, it does not seem
possible to generate a diameter acct rqst using diapwtst that, converted
to a radius acct rqst, is acceptible by an external radius server
because of the lack of an acct-session-id attribute.

The -session_id parameter to diapwtst is for attribute 263, as noted,
and does not get translated into a radius acct-session-id, which is
fine, and makes sense.  But there are no parameters available to
diapwtst to be able to specify the acct-session-id (attribute 44) that
does get converted.  This means that there is no way to generate a
radius request (that was converted from a diameter request) that
contains an acct-sesssion-id field, which is required by a radius server
to accept the accounting request.

I understand there are workarounds, like hooks for example.  I decided
the easiest approach was to add code to diapwtst for a command line
parameter for acct_session_id, that adds attribute 44 to a diameter
accounting request/response.  It's only a few lines of extra code, and
works fine.

So I would suggest (feel free to shoot me down here, if there's an
easier way) that acct-session-id (44) be added to the command line
options for diapwtst.  Otherwise I don't see a way of generating a
'legal' accounting request (once converted) that contains an
acct-session-id without code changes.

I think that anyone who uses diapwtst and radiator to convert and send
radius to a third party radius server will run into this problem.

Thanks again,
Blake

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-radiator at open.com.au [mailto:owner-radiator at open.com.au] On
Behalf Of Hugh Irvine
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:02 AM
To: Blake Ulmer
Cc: Radiator Mailinglist
Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) accounting request Acct-Session-Id lost in
conversion from diameter to radius


Hello Blake -

Further to this, you could use the PreHandlerHook available in the  
ServerDIAMETER clause to do whatever you wish.

The PreHandlerHook is passed a pointer to the translated radius  
request as an arguement, and there is a reference in that radius  
request to the original Diameter request in $tp->{diameter_request}.

See the code in "Radius/ServerDIAMETER.pm" and the example hooks in  
"goodies/hooks.txt".

regards

Hugh


On 21 Mar 2007, at 10:57, Mike McCauley wrote:

> Hello Blake,
>
> Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
> The reason that copy_dia_to_radius_attrs works the way it does is  
> from our
> interpretation of the Diameter RFCs.
>
> I would expect to see accounting session IDs in the Diameter Acct- 
> Session-Id
> AVP (code 44), (which would be immediately converted to the RADIUS
> Acct-Session-Id attribute).
>
> Session-ID (code 263) is a Diamater-specific thing, and would not  
> normally be
> transferred to the Radius packet (as you have noted).
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On Wednesday 21 March 2007 08:52, Blake Ulmer wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply to my first posting (undefined  
>> Authenticator
>> field converting from diameter to radius).  I have another potential
>> problem in the diameter to radius conversion, specifically for
>> accounting packets.
>>
>> Again, my environment is 3.16 on RHEL4.  I'm doing a diamter  
>> accounting
>> request (using diapwtst) to radiator, which converts it to radius,  
>> and
>> sends it off to my third party radius server.  The radius server  
>> is not
>> accepting the request, because Acct-Session-Id is not present.
>>
>> I specify -session_id <whatever> to diapwtst, and I can see the
>> originating diameter request containing the session-id (if I don't
>> specify anything, then I get a default session-id, but it's there).
>> However, the converted radius acct request does not contain it.
>>
>> I dove into ServerDIAMETER.pm, and found that the
>> copy_dia_to_radius_attrs method only converts a few specific  
>> attributes,
>> and then anything with an attribute number below 256.  The session-id
>> field (ACODE_SESSION_ID) has a value of 263, which is why it isn't  
>> being
>> converted.  That set of ifs also has no plain old, "else", which  
>> is why
>> there's no log message or anything about why it isn't converted,  
>> or that
>> it isn't being converted.
>>
>> I have a somewhat kludgey fix I'm using, which is to simply add  
>> another
>> if for the diameter ACODE_SESSION_ID, which copies $value into the
>> packet for Acct-Session-Id, and that seems to work.
>>
>> I know that Acct-Session-Id is required by the radius RFC, and so I
>> wonder why the attribute is only copied if the attribute number is  
>> less
>> than 256?  It seems either that number should be much larger, or a
>> specific case needs to be entered for ACODE_SESSION_ID.
>>
>> Thank you again,
>> Blake Ulmer
>>
>> Here's a snippet of the Acct-Session-Id not being translated (in an
>> accounting request), for kicks:
>>
>> **************************************************************
>> Tue Mar 20 18:37:05 2007: DEBUG: zulu.open.com.au <- testoriginhost
>> recv_v1msg:
>>   Code:           271 (Accounting)
>>   Version:        1
>>   Flags:          0x80 (R)
>>   Application ID: 1 (Nasreq)
>>   Hop-to-Hop ID:  2
>>   End-to-End ID:  554696706
>>   Attributes:
>>     Session-Id: 64, 5,
>>     Origin-Host: 64, testoriginhost,
>>     Origin-Realm: 64, testoriginrealm,
>>     User-Name: 64, bob at hal9002.com,
>>     Called-Station-Id: 64, 123456789,
>>     Calling-Station-Id: 64, 987654321,
>>     NAS-Port: 64, 1234,
>>     Accounting-Record-Type: 64, START_RECORD,
>>     Accounting-Record-Number: 64, 12345,
>> Tue Mar 20 18:37:05 2007: DEBUG: StateMachine::event R-Rcv-Message in
>> state R-Open. Calling Process
>> Tue Mar 20 18:37:05 2007: DEBUG: zulu.open.com.au Process
>> Tue Mar 20 18:37:05 2007: DEBUG: Packet dump:
>> *** Diameter request converted to Radius request ....
>> Code:       Accounting-Request
>> Identifier: UNDEF
>> Authentic:  1234567890123456
>> Attributes:
>>         NAS-Identifier = "testoriginhost"
>>         User-Name = "bob at hal9002.com"
>>         Called-Station-Id = "123456789"
>>         Calling-Station-Id = "987654321"
>>         NAS-Port = 1234
>>         Acct-Status-Type = 1
>>
>> Tue Mar 20 18:37:05 2007: DEBUG: Handling request with Handler
>> 'Realm=hal9002.com'
>> Tue Mar 20 18:37:05 2007: DEBUG: Handling with Radius::AuthRADIUS
>> Tue Mar 20 18:37:05 2007: DEBUG: Packet dump:
>> *** Sending to 192.168.3.248 port 1813 ....
>>
>> Packet length = 93
>> 04 01 00 5d e8 28 e8 a6 c7 39 60 1f 3f eb d6 1c
>> cf 9c ac 40 20 10 74 65 73 74 6f 72 69 67 69 6e
>> 68 6f 73 74 01 11 62 6f 62 40 68 61 6c 39 30 30
>> 32 2e 63 6f 6d 1e 0b 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39
>> 1f 0b 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 05 06 00 00 04
>> d2 28 06 00 00 00 01 29 06 00 00 00 00
>> Code:       Accounting-Request
>> Identifier: 1
>> Authentic:  <0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0><0>
>> Attributes:
>>         NAS-Identifier = "testoriginhost"
>>         User-Name = "bob at hal9002.com"
>>         Called-Station-Id = "123456789"
>>         Calling-Station-Id = "987654321"
>>         NAS-Port = 1234
>>         Acct-Status-Type = 1
>>         Acct-Delay-Time = 0
>> **************************************************************
>
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Have you read the reference manual ("doc/ref.html")?
Have you searched the mailing list archive (www.open.com.au/archives/ 
radiator)?
Have you had a quick look on Google (www.google.com)?
Have you included a copy of your configuration file (no secrets),
together with a trace 4 debug showing what is happening?

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