(RADIATOR) How many <Handlers> do you have?

miko at yournetplus.com miko at yournetplus.com
Wed Jan 12 05:32:57 CST 2005


Essentially we operate several radius machines that authenticate from 
major backbone carriers. Each of these machines has anywhere from eighty 
to several hundred realms that it auths, many of which operate subrealms 
as I described previously. Our radius boxes handle these realms in 
different fashions, some are proxied to downstreams and others are handled 
in databases, and some are handled using other authby systems.

Our goal is to merge these systems together so that we do not have to 
maintain as many systems, thus we end up having a few thousand realms 
total that need to be handled... We also auth based on not only realm but 
also prefixes of the username being authed, which is what originally 
prompted me to use handlers...

-Miko

<----- Original Message ----->
From: Frank Danielson <fdanielson at csky.com>
To: miko at yournetplus.com, radiator at open.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:09:30 PM
Subject: (RADIATOR) How many <Handlers> do you have?
> Hi Miko-
> 
> What are you planning to do inside all these handlers? Are you proxying the
> requests to a downstream server, authorizing against a database, or
> something else?
> 
> Since Hugh has already established that 4000 handlers is not a good idea and
> you've established that realms probably won't work either, how about giving
> us the whole scenario and maybe someone on the list will have a good idea or
> has already solved a similar problem?
> 
> -Frank
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: miko at yournetplus.com [mailto:miko at yournetplus.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:29 AM
> To: Hugh Irvine
> Cc: radiator at open.com.au
> Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) How many <Handlers> do you have?
> 
> 
> Unfortunately we cannot use SQLRadius or Realm clauses because we need to 
> be able to support other attributes besides the realm and the realms that 
> we have must also support subrealms (ie. sub.realm.com) without the 
> configuration knowing what the sub portion of the realm is. At present I 
> only know to that with regular expressions in a Handler clause...
> 
> -Miko
> 
> <----- Original Message ----->
> From: Hugh Irvine <hugh at open.com.au>
> To: "miko at yournetplus.com" <miko at yournetplus.com>
> CC: radiator at open.com.au
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:10:15 AM
> Subject: (RADIATOR) How many <Handlers> do you have?
> 
>>Hello Miko -
>>
>>A configuration with 4000-5000 Handlers is not a good idea.
>>
>>If you need to do this because of many target radius proxy hosts I 
>>generally recommend a single Handler with an AuthBy SQLRADIUS clause.
>>
>>If this is to cope with many different Realms then you should just use 
>>Realm clauses which are _much_ faster than Handlers.
>>
>>Perhaps if you give me a bit more detail I can try to make some 
>>suggestions.
>>
>>Otherwise we are available on a contract basis for design, installation 
>>and training.
>>
>>regards
>>
>>Hugh
>>
>>
>>On 11 Jan 2005, at 17:01, miko at yournetplus.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Has anyone experienced any issue, or can think of any issue with 
>>>running a large # of Handlers in a config file???
>>>
>>>At present we have the potential for having about 4000-5000 in a new 
>>>config I am wanting to implement, but I'd like to know that Radiator 
>>>can handle this before I do it...
>>>
>>>-Miko
>>>
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>>
>>NB:
>>
>>Have you read the reference manual ("doc/ref.html")?
>>Have you searched the mailing list archive 
>>(www.open.com.au/archives/radiator)?
>>Have you had a quick look on Google (www.google.com)?
>>Have you included a copy of your configuration file (no secrets),
>>together with a trace 4 debug showing what is happening?
>>
> 
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