(RADIATOR) Help understanding handlers to allow a guest vlan fallback on wireless

doc@dcclrt.co.uk davidandrew at dcclrt.co.uk
Thu Dec 2 16:44:25 CST 2004


Hi again Hugh and All,

Having gotten the vlan tagging to work, I am now close to complete success.

I have assigned a Native vlan id of 2 on the AP and enabled the vlan state 
so that vlans can be assigned to the AP clients. The 802.1x is set as being 
supported but not required.
I set it as this in order to achieve the following scenario:-

A client with a laptop walks on site and wants to access the web. By 
associating with the AP the client is given the AP's native vlan and as 
authentication is not required but optional the client is able to browse web 
pages. The client decides to install the 802.1x client we use in order to 
gain full access to the network. Having installed the client and 
successfully authenitcated the client is placed into a "full access" vlan.

The problem I am having is that having set a Native vlan ID of 2 on the AP I 
expected to be given that vlan when I associate with the AP in order to just 
web browse. However I am given a vlan id of 1. This seems somewhat strange.
If there is no 802.1x authentication attempt then Radiator cannot assign a 
vlan, and my previous idea of a default vlan in the radius config file will 
not work. So by using a default vlan on the AP and a "full access" vlan 
being assigned after successfull 802.1x authentication, we would achieve our 
desired scenario.

Does anyone have anything similar to this scenario at all ?
Anyway if anyone can help at all that would be great.

Regards
Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hugh Irvine" <hugh at open.com.au>
To: <doc at dcclrt.co.uk>
Cc: <radiator at open.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) Help understanding handlers to allow a guest vlan 
fallback on wireless


>
> Hello -
>
> Something like this:
>
> <Client 1.1.1.1>
> Identifier Site1
> .....
> </Client>
>
> <Client 1.1.1.2>
> Identifier Site1
> .....
> </Client>
>
> <Client 2.2.2.1>
> Identifier Site2
> .....
> </Client>
>
> <Client 2.2.2.2>
> Identifier Site2
> .....
> </Client>
>
> <Client 3.3.3.1>
> Identifier Site3
> .....
> </Client>
>
> ......
>
> <Handler Client-Identifier = Site1>
>
> AuthByPolicy ContinueUntilAccept
>
> <AuthBy LDAP2>
> .....
> # vlan attributes for Site1
> AddToReply .....
> .....
> </AuthBy>
>
> <AuthBy INTERNAL>
> DefaultResult ACCEPT
> # default guest vlan attributes
> AddToReply .....
> .....
> </AuthBy>
>
> </Handler>
>
> <Handler Client-Identifier = Site2>
>
> AuthByPolicy ContinueUntilAccept
>
> <AuthBy LDAP2>
> .....
> # vlan attributes for Site2
> AddToReply .....
> .....
> </AuthBy>
>
> <AuthBy INTERNAL>
> DefaultResult ACCEPT
> # default guest vlan attributes
> AddToReply .....
> .....
> </AuthBy>
>
> </Handler>
>
> <Handler Client-Identifier = Site3>
>
> AuthByPolicy ContinueUntilAccept
>
> <AuthBy LDAP2>
> .....
> # vlan attributes for Site3
> AddToReply .....
> .....
> </AuthBy>
>
> <AuthBy INTERNAL>
> DefaultResult ACCEPT
> # default guest vlan attributes
> AddToReply .....
> .....
> </AuthBy>
>
> </Handler>
>
> .....
>
>
> I don't know the exact syntax for your particular equipment, but you 
> should check a trace 4 debug from Radiator to verify exactly what is being 
> sent, then check what the AP thinks it is doing. Obviously if the AP does 
> not support what you are trying to do there isn't much Radiator can do 
> about it.
>
> regards
>
> Hugh
>
>
> On 2 Dec 2004, at 08:14, doc at dcclrt.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Our users do not have set vlan parameters in the users record within 
>> Novell Directory Services because we want them to be able to roam from 
>> site to site where each site uses a different vlan and does not cross 
>> sites. In order to successfully configure a default fallback vlan based 
>> on my config shown, could you possibly give me a complete config that 
>> would work please. This might give me a better understanding as to how 
>> the information you gave me before actually fits together in the config 
>> file properly. Sorry if this sounds dumb but I dont quite get it yet. :(
>>
>> In the config file I have I did add AddToReply attributes but I'm not 
>> convinced my AP's were assigning the vlan correctly.
>> The AP documentation says to use:-
>> AddToReply Tunnel-Type = VLAN
>> Tunnel-Medium-Type = Ether_802
>> Tunnel-Private-Group = VLANID
>>
>> but when I look at he station status on the AP there is no VLAN ID 
>> associated with the connected clients.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Irvine" <hugh at open.com.au>
>> To: <doc at dcclrt.co.uk>
>> Cc: <radiator at open.com.au>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) Help understanding handlers to allow a guest vlan 
>> fallback on wireless
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello -
>>
>> Normally you would have the correct vlan for a user stored in his/her
>> user record and you would return it from the LDAP search.
>>
>> If all users have the same vlan, then you can use AddToReply in the
>> AuthBy LDAP2 clause, with an additional AuthBy INTERNAL clause with a
>> different AddToReply for guests.
>>
>> Something like this:
>>
>> AuthByPolicy ContinueUntilAccept
>>
>> <AuthBy LDAP2>
>> .....
>> # vlan attributes
>> AddToReply .....
>> .....
>> </AuthBy>
>>
>> <AuthBy INTERNAL>
>> DefaultResult ACCEPT
>> # default guest vlan attributes
>> AddToReply .....
>> .....
>> </AuthBy>
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>> On 2 Dec 2004, at 05:01, doc at dcclrt.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone.
>>>
>>> I'm using Enterasys Roamabout 3000 AP to authenticate users via 
>>> radiator.
>>> Radiator is configured to LDAP to NDS which is working successfully with 
>>> the current configuration.
>>> I have many different sites that are on different VLAN's where wireless 
>>> users will need to authenticate.
>>> Failing authentication we want to have a default guest vlan assigned 
>>> whereby the user can then download the client needed to for 802.1x 
>>> authentication.
>>>
>>> I just do not know the correct way to go about this in the configuration 
>>> file. I've tried and failed but I dont fully understand handlers and 
>>> realms and how they interact with the rest of the config file. (Yes Ive 
>>> RTFM many many times).
>>>
>>> Below is the radiator config file I am using at the moment, it is by no 
>>> means complete.
>>> As it is, the config file is configured to authenticate a testbed set of 
>>> users but I want to add configuration for further Clients with the same 
>>> LDAP authentication method and also if necessary a default vlan fallback 
>>> mechanism.
>>>
>>> It may well be that my AP does not support "dynamic vlan" setup. The AP 
>>> is connected to a Cisco 2950 with IOS Enhanced Image.
>>>
>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> ---------------------
>>> Foreground
>>> LogStdout
>>> LogDir /var/log/radius
>>> LogFile %L/%Y-%m-log
>>> DbDir /etc/radiator
>>> Trace 4
>>> AuthPort 1812
>>> #AcctPort 1813
>>>
>>> <Client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx>
>>> IdenticalClients xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>>> Secret 1234
>>> DupInterval 0
>>> Identifier isu
>>> </Client>
>>>
>>> <Handler Client-Identifier=isu>
>>> <AuthBy LDAP2>
>>> # Tell Radiator how to talk to the LDAP server
>>> ServerChecksPassword 1
>>> Host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>>> Port 389
>>>
>>> # You will only need these if your LDAP server
>>> # requires authentication. These are the examples
>>> # in a default OpenLDAP installation
>>> # see /etc/openldap/slapd.conf
>>> # AuthDN CN=ADMIN, O=MMU
>>> # AuthPassword xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> # This the top of the search tree where users
>>> # will be found. It should match the configuration
>>> # of your server, see /etc/openldap/slapd.conf
>>> BaseDN o=xxx
>>>
>>> # This is the LDAP attribute to match the radius user name
>>> UsernameAttr cn
>>>
>>> # You can enable debugging of the Net::LDAP
>>> # module with this:
>>> #Debug 255
>>>
>>> EAPType TTLS
>>> EAPTLS_CAFile /etc/radiator/certificates/xxxxxxx.pem
>>> EAPTLS_CertificateFile /etc/radiator/certificates/cert-srv.pem
>>> EAPTLS_CertificateType PEM EAPTLS_PrivateKeyFile 
>>> /etc/radiator/certificates/xxxxxxxxx.xxx
>>> EAPTLS_PrivateKeyPassword whatever
>>> EAPTLS_MaxFragmentSize 1000
>>> AutoMPPEKeys
>>>
>>> # StripFromReply Tunnel-Type,\ # Tunnel-Medium-Type,\
>>> # Tunnel-Private-Group-ID
>>> # AddToReply Tunnel-Type = VLAN,\
>>> # Tunnel-Medium-Type = Ether_802,\
>>> # Tunnel-Private-Group = 2 </AuthBy> # PostAuthHook 
>>> file:"%D/hooks/vlan-ascii-to-binary-postauth" </Handler>
>>>
>>
>> NB:
>>
>> Have you read the reference manual ("doc/ref.html")?
>> Have you searched the mailing list archive
>> (www.open.com.au/archives/radiator)?
>> Have you had a quick look on Google (www.google.com)?
>> Have you included a copy of your configuration file (no secrets),
>> together with a trace 4 debug showing what is happening?
>>
>> -- 
>> Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server
>> anywhere. Available on *NIX, *BSD, Windows, MacOS X.
>> -
>> Nets: internetwork inventory and management - graphical, extensible,
>> flexible with hardware, software, platform and database independence.
>> -
>> CATool: Private Certificate Authority for Unix and Unix-like systems.
>>
>>
>
> NB:
>
> Have you read the reference manual ("doc/ref.html")?
> Have you searched the mailing list archive 
> (www.open.com.au/archives/radiator)?
> Have you had a quick look on Google (www.google.com)?
> Have you included a copy of your configuration file (no secrets),
> together with a trace 4 debug showing what is happening?
>
> -- 
> Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server
> anywhere. Available on *NIX, *BSD, Windows, MacOS X.
> -
> Nets: internetwork inventory and management - graphical, extensible,
> flexible with hardware, software, platform and database independence.
> -
> CATool: Private Certificate Authority for Unix and Unix-like systems.
>
> 

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