(RADIATOR) Idea for an app...

Tue Jan 7 16:03:50 CST 2003

These boxes tend to block all traffic from the clients except DHCP and DNS until they authenticate using "http redirect"....the first http packet seen is intercepted and a login page is sent as the reply.

JLM

Jeremy Mordkoff
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike McCauley [mailto:mikem at open.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:41 AM
To: Anton Krall; 'Hugh Irvine'
Cc: radiator at open.com.au
Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) Idea for an app...

Hello Anton,

On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:33, Anton Krall wrote:
> Well. For the auth and page redirect part, Im very interested.
>
> I have search for some software for this and havent been able to find
> something I like so far.
>
> We need some software for hotspots (wire or wireless) that when a user
> plugs in, dhcp will assign an IP and then when the user opens up a ANY
> web page, he will be asked for a username or code, and upon successful
> auth, he will be granted access to the Internet for X amount of
> minutes.. After that.. Internet is closed again and he has to insert
> another username, code or buy more minutes..
>
> Sounds like the idea Mike is working on?

Its not precisely the same thing, but yours is an interesting idea.

I guess it would act like an http proxy, and would authenticate each 
connection from a client, and measure the total traffic delivered to that 
client. I know squid can be made to do radius auth, but not accounting, and 
certainly not volume limits based on radius reply attribute. So perhaps this 
would be a front-end to a http proxy?

Its hard to see how this could be made to work for other than HTTP, though. 
Would your custoemrs need to access other than http (port 80?). Port 443 
https comes to mind?

Cheers.

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> %-----Original Message-----
> %From: Hugh Irvine [mailto:hugh at open.com.au]
> %Sent: Lunes, 06 de Enero de 2003 10:02 p.m.
> %To: Anton Krall; mikem at open.com.au
> %Cc: radiator at open.com.au
> %Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) Idea for an app...
> %
> %
> %
> %Hello Anton -
> %
> %1. Our Radmin product will already do most of what you describe.
> %
> %	www.open.com.au/radmin
> %
> %2. You would need the usual twisted-pair ethernet hub or switch and
> %some Cat-5 cabling, together with one or more 802.11x wireless access
> %points. You would also need some sort of server machine (probably a PC
> %running some version of Linux/xxxBSD) and some sort of connection to
> %the internet. Finally you would need some magic software to redirect
> %the http requests to the login page when a user starts up a session.
> %
> %For this last point, Mike has recently been working on some
> %redirection
> %software for exactly this purpose.
> %
> %I have copied Mike on this mail and he may have some additional
> %comments.
> %
> %regards
> %
> %Hugh
> %
> %
> %On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 13:45 Australia/Melbourne, Anton Krall
> %wrote:
> %
> %> Guys... I have an idea and I need some help figuring out the specs.
> %>
> %> 1. A client of mine just called to ask for a quote for a software
> %> developed inhouse that's intended for an internet café. The software
> %> has this specs:
> %>
> %> - Install a linux machine with php, mysql, and radiator
> %> - Make some php pages for an admin system that can create serial
> %> numbers
> %> (instead of usernames, the serials are for prepaid cards), passwords
> %> and
> %> assign minutes to the cards.
> %> - Make the php pages that can let the users review how many minutes
> %> they
> %> have left on the serial/prepaid card they bought
> %> - Configure radiator to auth against the mysql db with serials and
> %> limit
> %> access to X amount of minutes depending on the prepaid card they
> %> bought.
> %>
> %> How much would somebody charge for coding this kind of app?
> %I need an
> %> estimate on how to charge my client for this.
> %>
> %> 2. This is a tech question.
> %>
> %> What would you need to implement an internet café with
> %> wireless/ethernet
> %> adaptors and create a LAN, so that when a user plugs their laptop to
> %> the
> %> eth port or turns on their WiFi cards, they are assigned an IP and
> %> everything else via DHCP and then when they try to use HTTP,
> %FTP or any
> %> kind of internet access, they are psented with a popup asking for a
> %> username and password?
> %>
> %> This username and password would interact against a radiator server
> %> like
> %> the one mentioned on step 1.
> %>
> %> What kind of configuration, hardware is needed for such an
> %> implementation?
> %>
> %> Thx for any ideas you can provide.
> %>
> %>
> %> __________________________________________________________________
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