(RADIATOR) Reliable accounting?

[Mike McCauley]

Hello Mariano,

On Jun 1,  6:47pm, Mariano Absatz wrote:
> Subject: RE: (RADIATOR) Reliable accounting?
> Hi Mike, Julio
>
> I guess I don't fully understand what's beeing discussed.

Typically its packet loss in transit between a proxy Radius server and the main
radius server, often as the packet transits a third-party network.

>
> Mike, how do you expect to do reliable UDP between Radiator and "something-
> else", this being a NAS, or a proxying or proxied Radius server, when you can
> only change Radiator?

Thats what we are working on.


>
> Or is there something called "reliable radius udp" that I don't know of? In
> this case, do you have a reference I can glance on? (RFC, I-D, whatever on-
> line docs?)
>
> I have the same problem as Julio (and I guess, from the same source ;-).
>
> I'd really LOVE to have accounting records reliably delivered to my Radiator,
> but every time there is a problem with the NAS, I loose packets... (problems
> include "partial" failures, software patches and other oddities), and NO, I
> don't have access to the NAS.
>
>
> The network in question is wholly owned by my client and, although I have
> seen malformed packets on the wire (not specifically Radius), I guess the
> main culprit of packet loss is not the network per-se but the NAS...
>
>
> El 1 Jun 2001, a las 12:20, julio.prada at bt.es escribió:
>
> > Hello Mike,
> >
> > We have serious problems with acct. requests that are lost.
> >
> > Actually we use scripts made by us to check really-used ports and delete
> > incorrect entries in RADONLINE table.
> >
> > The frequency of the executions of these scripts is high. And they use
> > radpwtst to correct bad entries in RADONLINE. So extra traffic is generated
> > to maintain a reliable information about accounting.
> >
> > We are the carrier and we're very interested in solving this problem. So if
> > you want, we could collaborate in testing any development about this theme
> > in our laboratory as a 'friendly customer'.
> >
> > regards,
> > jules
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Mike McCauley [mailto:mikem at open.com.au]
> > Enviado el: viernes 1 de junio de 2001 19:32
> > Para: radiator at open.com.au
> > Asunto: (RADIATOR) Reliable accounting?
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > As we all know, the Radius protocol permits accounting records to be lost
> > when
> > network packet losses are serious.
> >
> > We are working with a third party on the possibility of reliable Radius UDP
> > delivery for accounting.
> >
> > So I am wondering if there are people who are being badly affected by this?
> > How
> > bad a problem is it for you? Is the packet loss in carrier network you dont
> > control, or in your own?
> >
> > Reply to me off-list if you prefer.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike McCauley                               mikem at open.com.au
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> Mariano Absatz
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>
>-- End of excerpt from Mariano Absatz



-- 
Mike McCauley                               mikem at open.com.au
Open System Consultants Pty. Ltd            Unix, Perl, Motif, C++, WWW
24 Bateman St Hampton, VIC 3188 Australia   http://www.open.com.au
Phone +61 3 9598-0985                       Fax   +61 3 9598-0955

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Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, Active Directory etc etc 
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